Transistor Switch Application Circuit - MoreDat2024-03-29T07:02:02Zhttp://moredat.ning.com/forum/topics/transistor-switch-application-circuit?commentId=6483656%3AComment%3A1976&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have to take issue with gol…tag:moredat.ning.com,2012-06-06:6483656:Comment:19762012-06-06T18:29:01.267ZJerryhttp://moredat.ning.com/profile/Jerry
<p>I have to take issue with golden rule #1</p>
<p><strong>1) Collector must be more positive than the emitter</strong></p>
<p>This applies for an npn transistor but for a pnp transistor the collector would have to be more negative than the emitter. So for now let’s just apply these rules for the npn transistor.</p>
<p>Now let’s address your question:</p>
<p><strong>If Ic is 940mA how are you breaking the rule that collector voltage is not greater than emitter voltage?</strong></p>
<p>The…</p>
<p>I have to take issue with golden rule #1</p>
<p><strong>1) Collector must be more positive than the emitter</strong></p>
<p>This applies for an npn transistor but for a pnp transistor the collector would have to be more negative than the emitter. So for now let’s just apply these rules for the npn transistor.</p>
<p>Now let’s address your question:</p>
<p><strong>If Ic is 940mA how are you breaking the rule that collector voltage is not greater than emitter voltage?</strong></p>
<p>The answer is Ic cannot be 940mA. Your circuit plainly shows that Ic must be the current of the lamp which is 0.1A or 100mA. No matter what, that is the limit of your current. We call this saturation. When the transistor is in saturation then the formula for Collector Current using Beta times the base current does not apply. It only allows you to confirm that your transistor is in saturation.</p>
<p>Now your other question:</p>
<p><strong>He says to have a current of 940mA can only occur if you would pull the collector below ground. I totally dont understand this statement!</strong></p>
<p><strong>What exactly does this mean?</strong></p>
<p><strong>How would you pull a collector below ground?</strong></p>
<p>We have already said that the collector current cannot be 940mA. This applies to your given circuit. And with the transistor in saturation, it basically acts like a piece of wire connecting the collector to ground. So let’s replace the transistor with a piece of wire as shown in the "saturated" drawing below. But in order to get 940mA to flow through the lamp we would need more voltage across the lamp. So instead of connecting our wire to ground, which replaces the transistor, let’s connect it to a negative supply voltage. If 10 volts across the lamp gives us 100mA then 94 volts across the lamp would give us 940mA, so we need another 84 volts. So we will set our negative voltage supply to 84 volts as shown in the "940mA" drawing below. Now the collector (where it would have been) is below ground. But wth your original circuit, that’s not possible so the collector current of 940mA is not possible. In fact with 940mA and 94V across your lamp, the lamp would burn up instantly. You have to understand the concept of saturation. I hope this helps.</p>
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